RashyNullPlanet

Just now, on this video in response to Anekantavad’s question to ashane77:

 ”Legitimate” is not the same as right.

Would you do on your own what you allow others to do on your behalf? Would *you* go to your neighbor’s employer and demand a portion of his salary? Would you chase down your neighbor as he’s driving to work and stop him under threat of force because he has an outdated sticker on his car? Of course you wouldn’t. Why would you tolerate such behavior from others claiming to act on your behalf? Don’t ever vote on something you’re not willing to do on your own.

Anekantavad responds:

It wasn’t I who started using the word ‘legitimate’, and I didn’t say that it is right that we should have to have a huge military to seal us off from the rest of the world. But when has it even been the ‘right’ that happens in this world?

Secondly, the division of labour we have in oursociety means that some people are? lawyers, some are dishwashers and some are cops. When my appendix burts I get a doctor to treat me. Are you saying that’s immoral?

Then me again, with the rest of want I wanted to write (except for the first two paragraphs) but couldn’t because it wouldn’t fit into the first comment because of YouTube’s character limitation:

I don’t care that you’re not the one who *started* using “legitimate.” Answer the question at hand: Would you do on your own what you allow others to do on your behalf? My bet’s on NFW.

Hire anyone you wish to remove your appendix, just don’t compel me or anyone else to pay for it.

There are only two ways for humans to interact: reason and force. Guess where taxation falls.

Martin encourages more of the same futile actions that enthroned the one who would be God-Emperor of Terra.

There is no way around it: “No nation in world history has ever voted its way out of straits like these, and this one won’t, either.“

That’s the running tally of taxes since my wife and I started working.

I look at that amount and imagine what I could have done with that.

That’s almost three times what I have in my 401k.

How can anyone push that rock up that hill?

Of *course* those comments are closed.

http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.3250

Matt Taibbi hasn’t a clue:

“In the Randian ethos, called objectivism, the only real morality is self-interest, and society is divided into groups who are efficiently self-interested (the rich) and the ”parasites” who wish to take their earnings through taxes.”

Got a cite for that bullshit, Taibbi?

Look here, Taibbi, you clearly haven’t read and don’t understand Rand, and, more importantly, you don’t understand moral interaction with your fellow humans.

Morality is this: don’t hurt anyone.

That’s what self interest is all about. Pursue whatever you wish, as long as you don’t harm anyone.

Get your head straight.

Malone Vandam, on democracy:

Just the pure goggle-eyed violent stupidity of it could be the tinder of insurrection. The proverbial final straw.

“In a normal democracy?”

I’m not sure what your idea of a “normal democracy” is, Dionne, but in American democracy the Congress doesn’t take over an industry…

Democracy is democracy is democracy is mob rule is mob rule is mob rule.

By any other name, flavor, or stench, democracy always has been, is now, and always will be slow death by creeping mob lynching. There is no honor in defending the indefensible.

Again: Your job does not free you from your primary obligation to determine right from wrong and to act accordingly.

Three recent items, all excellent examples of that fact:

• Government-paid hell-raisers
• Thoreau on separating oneself from the state
• Judicial terrorists

See the binding principle?

Obama, at his appearance at Arlington National Cemetery yesterday:

Carved into the marble behind me are the words of our first Commander-in-Chief:  “When we assumed the soldier, we did not lay aside the citizen.”  Just as the contributions that our servicemen and women make to this nation don’t end when they take off their uniform, neither do our obligations to them.  And when we fulfill those obligations, we aren’t just keeping faith with our veterans; we are keeping faith with the ideals of service and sacrifice upon which this republic was founded. [emphasis mine]

The thug-in-chief is a manipulating liar. America was forged upon the ideal of individual liberty, not servitude and sacrifice:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

There was no screeching appeal to either service or sacrifice in attendance at the birth of America.

Obama wants you to think that you owe something to people you don’t know, haven’t ever met, and never will meet. He wants you to accept the idea that you owe something to everyone else simply because you exist.

There is no premise more wrong.

Wendy links an essay in the WSJ which opines:

…the tax burden for most Americans is far too high but they do not realize it fully because of tax withholding and the payroll tax hides the true burden they are forced to shoulder.

I know exactly how much has been stolen from me, because I’ve been keeping track for over 20 years.

I didn’t read the article because Murray reveals what he is in his very first sentence, however, ending withholding and making people take action to pay taxes would certainly make them fully aware of the fact that taxation is theft, and whether or not it’s “bad for democracy” would instantly become a moot point just as it should be.

Obama, pretensively speaking about detainees in Guantanamo, but, in fact, speaking about you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVChNmN9y7E

Via Wendy.

Wendy is absolutely right:

without freedom there is no morality. Only social control.

That’s precisely what Anthony Burgess illustrated in A Clockwork Orange. You owe it to yourself to read the book or watch the movie. It shows exactly where social control is going.